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		<title>By: Don Veinot</title>
		<link>http://midwestoutreach.org/blogs/merry-christmas-from-cnn/comment-page-1#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Veinot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David asked, &quot;why do most Christians not believe Jesus had a half brother?&quot; 

Actually, that is the official teaching of Roman Catholicism only and extends from their teaching that Mary was born sinless and never sinned (Emmaculate Conception). I am not sure how having other children is a conflict on that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David asked, &#8220;why do most Christians not believe Jesus had a half brother?&#8221; </p>
<p>Actually, that is the official teaching of Roman Catholicism only and extends from their teaching that Mary was born sinless and never sinned (Emmaculate Conception). I am not sure how having other children is a conflict on that point.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://midwestoutreach.org/blogs/merry-christmas-from-cnn/comment-page-1#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do most Christians not believe Jesus had a half brother?</description>
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		<title>By: Midwest Christian Outreach: The Crux &#187; Is Holding Rick Warren Accountable Uncivilized and Rude?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midwest Christian Outreach: The Crux &#187; Is Holding Rick Warren Accountable Uncivilized and Rude?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This past couple of weeks and particularly this past weekend, coverage of Christianity was wall to wall in the media. We had After Jesus – The First Christians on CNN which we reviewed in the blog article “Merry Christmas from CNN.” CNN followed up with the Anderson Cooper 360 special, which we reviewed “What is a Christian?” I was looking forward to some down time with the family and decided to set the recorder to capture the various programs that were being done on Christmas and Christianity. There is The Birth of Jesus, Who is Jesus?, One Nation Under God. It seemed that a great deal of the available media was about Rick Warren, especially on FOX. There was the special “Can Rick Warren Change the World?” and “The Three Purposes of Christmas.” Rick was a guest on MSNBC’s Meet the Press with Tim Russert. There was also the December 22 article in Christianity Today “Three Purposes of Christmas” by Timothy C. Morgan. In between family gatherings I read the C.T. article and watched “Meet the Press.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This past couple of weeks and particularly this past weekend, coverage of Christianity was wall to wall in the media. We had After Jesus – The First Christians on CNN which we reviewed in the blog article “Merry Christmas from CNN.” CNN followed up with the Anderson Cooper 360 special, which we reviewed “What is a Christian?” I was looking forward to some down time with the family and decided to set the recorder to capture the various programs that were being done on Christmas and Christianity. There is The Birth of Jesus, Who is Jesus?, One Nation Under God. It seemed that a great deal of the available media was about Rick Warren, especially on FOX. There was the special “Can Rick Warren Change the World?” and “The Three Purposes of Christmas.” Rick was a guest on MSNBC’s Meet the Press with Tim Russert. There was also the December 22 article in Christianity Today “Three Purposes of Christmas” by Timothy C. Morgan. In between family gatherings I read the C.T. article and watched “Meet the Press.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Whitchurch</title>
		<link>http://midwestoutreach.org/blogs/merry-christmas-from-cnn/comment-page-1#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Whitchurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it so tricky for genuine Christians to define what a Christian is?  Your summary of a genuine believing of the good news of Jesus as summarized in 1Cor 15 the first paragraphs is masterful.

I think the SBC fellow was trying to squeeze the cultural mandate of &quot;being light and salt&#039; (but HOW does one do this?), the great commandment of loving one another (but HOW does one do this?) and sharing the great commission (but How would anyone ever want to do this?) was intriguing as a kind of Bible overview.  He left out the creation mandate but hey, TV can make us all blink.

Your point seems to be that all this &#039;doing&#039; is not what makes one a Christian nor does it at the root define what a Christian is.  The radical belief based on the historically accurate documents (the New Testament) that Jesus is who he says he is and did and does what he says, is what makes one a Christian.  One can artificially pump up and perform the other tasks for whatever reasons and motivations, but without this radical, foundational Belief in JESUS himself, it is a fine CNN show...  But in the words of the old Wendy&#039;s commercial, &quot;Where&#039;s the beef?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it so tricky for genuine Christians to define what a Christian is?  Your summary of a genuine believing of the good news of Jesus as summarized in 1Cor 15 the first paragraphs is masterful.</p>
<p>I think the SBC fellow was trying to squeeze the cultural mandate of &#8220;being light and salt&#8217; (but HOW does one do this?), the great commandment of loving one another (but HOW does one do this?) and sharing the great commission (but How would anyone ever want to do this?) was intriguing as a kind of Bible overview.  He left out the creation mandate but hey, TV can make us all blink.</p>
<p>Your point seems to be that all this &#8216;doing&#8217; is not what makes one a Christian nor does it at the root define what a Christian is.  The radical belief based on the historically accurate documents (the New Testament) that Jesus is who he says he is and did and does what he says, is what makes one a Christian.  One can artificially pump up and perform the other tasks for whatever reasons and motivations, but without this radical, foundational Belief in JESUS himself, it is a fine CNN show&#8230;  But in the words of the old Wendy&#8217;s commercial, &#8220;Where&#8217;s the beef?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://midwestoutreach.org/blogs/merry-christmas-from-cnn/comment-page-1#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 19:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Narrator:
”Delivering the Jesus message put Paul and Peter in conflict. Paul’s open door mission to the pagan Gentiles was a huge problem for Peter who thought the resurrection of Jesus was for the Jews alone. If you wanted to follow Jesus you had to become a Jew and obey Jewish Law and Peter wielded considerable power back in Jerusalem. Power given to him by Jesus.”


Don, I haven&#039;t been able to see special, but I agree with your comment about this quote.  It was true Peter had to be persuaded by the Lord to go to Cornelius, but in Acts 11 Peter is the one defending the Gentiles&#039; faith, and there is no conflict in Acts 15 between Peter and Paul.

I guess, if they *got* this idea that Peter thought the gospel was only for Jews, they must have been referring to Pauls remarks and rebuke of Peter in Galatians chapter 2.  

In that chapter, Paul notes the deliniation of their respective ministries -- Peter to the Jews, and Paul to the Gentiles.  But Galatians 2 is not at all a reason to think Peter thought the message was for Jews alone; it was simply Paul&#039;s understanding of how the Holy Spirit had called each of them to differing ministries, and they had even given each other the &quot;right hand of fellowship&quot; over the matter.

Paul *does* go on to rebuke Peter for hypocrisy, in that at some point Peter isolated himself with the Jews when they were around, because he was caving into fear of the Jews.  At that point, Peter would associate with Gentiles when Jews weren&#039;t around, but when Jews came around, Peter would hold himself aloof from the Gentiles.

Paul was very right to rebuke Peter for this, and I am glad Scripture talks about these things, because it shows the apostles holding each other accountable to the revelation they had received, and it also shows that they were not infallible, but needed each other.

In the same way, I am glad to read about the disputes over the widows&#039; food distribution, and how that was handled, as well as knowing that Paul and Barnabus had a &quot;sharp dispute.&quot;  The point is, God allows us to be human and there is room for disagreement, and there are problems to be solved and when leaders go astray from clear revelation (as Peter did) they are well-served with a rebuke from one who points them back to the revelation.

But none of these passages should cause one to declare that Peter thought the gospel message was for Jews alone.  Paul&#039;s &quot;open door mission&quot; caused Peter to act hypocritically at one point, but Peter was rebuked for it, and there is no hint of continuing conflict between them about the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Narrator:<br />
”Delivering the Jesus message put Paul and Peter in conflict. Paul’s open door mission to the pagan Gentiles was a huge problem for Peter who thought the resurrection of Jesus was for the Jews alone. If you wanted to follow Jesus you had to become a Jew and obey Jewish Law and Peter wielded considerable power back in Jerusalem. Power given to him by Jesus.”</p>
<p>Don, I haven&#8217;t been able to see special, but I agree with your comment about this quote.  It was true Peter had to be persuaded by the Lord to go to Cornelius, but in Acts 11 Peter is the one defending the Gentiles&#8217; faith, and there is no conflict in Acts 15 between Peter and Paul.</p>
<p>I guess, if they *got* this idea that Peter thought the gospel was only for Jews, they must have been referring to Pauls remarks and rebuke of Peter in Galatians chapter 2.  </p>
<p>In that chapter, Paul notes the deliniation of their respective ministries &#8212; Peter to the Jews, and Paul to the Gentiles.  But Galatians 2 is not at all a reason to think Peter thought the message was for Jews alone; it was simply Paul&#8217;s understanding of how the Holy Spirit had called each of them to differing ministries, and they had even given each other the &#8220;right hand of fellowship&#8221; over the matter.</p>
<p>Paul *does* go on to rebuke Peter for hypocrisy, in that at some point Peter isolated himself with the Jews when they were around, because he was caving into fear of the Jews.  At that point, Peter would associate with Gentiles when Jews weren&#8217;t around, but when Jews came around, Peter would hold himself aloof from the Gentiles.</p>
<p>Paul was very right to rebuke Peter for this, and I am glad Scripture talks about these things, because it shows the apostles holding each other accountable to the revelation they had received, and it also shows that they were not infallible, but needed each other.</p>
<p>In the same way, I am glad to read about the disputes over the widows&#8217; food distribution, and how that was handled, as well as knowing that Paul and Barnabus had a &#8220;sharp dispute.&#8221;  The point is, God allows us to be human and there is room for disagreement, and there are problems to be solved and when leaders go astray from clear revelation (as Peter did) they are well-served with a rebuke from one who points them back to the revelation.</p>
<p>But none of these passages should cause one to declare that Peter thought the gospel message was for Jews alone.  Paul&#8217;s &#8220;open door mission&#8221; caused Peter to act hypocritically at one point, but Peter was rebuked for it, and there is no hint of continuing conflict between them about the matter.</p>
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