Comments on: I Don’t Like Apologists

By: Bill Hartley

Bill Hartley — Fri, 07 May 2010 22:31:46 +0000

I didn’t enjoy reading this post. It’s why I don’t like apologetics either.

Of all the blessings I need this day, someone defending me from Tim Keller’s apostasy is not one of them.

This kind of chat, and a growing distaste for it, is why Keller is a fruitful man of God, and so many hair-splitters are not.

By: Daniel F. Wells

Daniel F. Wells — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:45:33 +0000

Don,

I enjoyed reading this post. Though I discovered this controversy over Keller last week I decided to blog about it as well. Feel free to read it and leave any comments. Macasil just last week did a blog on whether Keller is promoting two gospels, so I will probably write a response to that as well.

Blessings,
Daniel F. Wells

http://cosmicchrist.blogspot.com/2008/06/response-to-stephen-macasils-apostasy.html

By: JG

JG — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:13:11 +0000

“Asking this question becomes more important since by Macasil’s own admission he hasn’t read the book. If he hasn’t read the book where would he get the idea that Keller has left orthodoxy and have to quickly speak out?”

Don, the question is for you to answer. Where did YOU get the idea that Macasil is saying Keller left orthodoxy? You should apologize to him for lying about him. This is tabloid style reporting, Don Veinot! What made it so hard for Macasil to do this was that he loves Tim Keller and has learned alot from him. He has not written him off. Macasil viewed CS Lewis as unorthodox, Graham as having left orthodoxy, but is merely warning about Tim because of his association and endorsement of Lewis. You should apologize. Steven Macasil is very loving guy and will forgive quickly.

By: Fusion!

Fusion! — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:51:46 +0000

Don,
You really didn’t read the Keller interview (Stephen made sure we all knew it was about statements he made in the interview) or Stephen’s article. He meant it as a warning. Speaking as a reformed Christian who DID read the interview, I can say, I was taken aback at haw many statements he made where the Roman Church and the Protestant church were the same. Hence the warning. It seems someone has violated the spirit of James 1 and it’s not Macasill. For the record, these are public statements made by public individuals who are selling their books. If this is made publically, it shouldbe dealt with publicly– in all fairness of course.

By: Reformed Mama

Reformed Mama — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:22:04 +0000

“Be sure, be kind, don’t misrepresent”…ooops…someone forgot thier motto!

By: Travis

Travis — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:42:48 +0000

Who believes apologetics alone will bring someone to Christ. Scripture doesnt teach that. God calls men out of darkness and gives them to the son to atone for there sins. Apologetics and evagelism go hand in hand.

By: Travis

Travis — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:36:17 +0000

I couldnt find anywhere that it stated Keller was an out right apostate, hence the word (warning).

We can not share the pulpit or church with roman catholics or false teachers.

By: Drew

Drew — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:13:59 +0000

In the First Things interview Keller SAYS that he includes Roman Catholicism as part of the Christian faith. This is indefensible and sounds like he has sold out or at least sold out when talking to an interviewer sympathetic to the RC.

I’m not following you when you say that Macasil’s warning was about what Keller did not say. I don’t see that in the blog. Macasil quotes Keller and then offers commentary. Macasil did not offer criticism because he believes Keller should have nailed the 95 theses to the interviewers desk. That’s not what Macasil was looking for. However, as Christians involved in the defense of the faith, we should not throw our hats in with Roman Catholics.

Do you concur with C.S. Lewis in Mere Christianity that the most important thing is that Christ’s death works to make us right with God. The actual way that atonement was accomplished doesn’t matter. If you do, then you throw your hat in with Roman Catholics and those hailing from the Crystal Cathedral.

Why would Keller speak so highly of Mere Christianity?

By: Stephen Macasil

Stephen Macasil — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:29:19 +0000

Don,

I’m still trying to figure out who you’ve misread worse – James or me. Since they’re both really bad readings I’ll consider it a tie for now.

It is sad to see such poor misrepresentation as “The warning of apostasy has been issued because of what Keller did not say,” especially when the article explicitly states otherwise – that it’s because of what he *did* say. All one has to do is read my article and count the number of times that I commented on what he *did* say. One would then need to ask you where on earth you came up with “The warning of apostasy has been issued because of what Keller did not say.”

Anyhow, I’m sorry Don. You blew it on this one!

By: Barb

Barb — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:05:32 +0000

The following is the last sentence of a letter to the editor appearing in today’s Wall Street Journal.

“The truth will make you free only if you’re interested in hearing it.”

Tom Mader
Walnut Creek, Calif.

Whenever I become frustrated that some people are so willing to believe lies–lies that pretend to free but actually keep in bondage–I remind myself that the Bible says many will not have ears to hear or eyes to see. It is then I rely on prayer, as in Mark 9:28-29, which says, “After Jesus had gone indoors, his disciples asked him privately, ‘Why couldn’t we drive it out?’ He replied, ‘This kind can come out only by prayer.’”