Comments on: Gwen Shamblin “Suits” up

By: Cori C.

Cori C. — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:16:19 +0000

I am not part of the Remnant Fellowship, but I have had an immensely improved life learning to put God first from my WD materials. I was led to the Bible through WD. I visited the Remnant Fellowship, not knowing they didn’t believe in the trinity. I was about to join the Catholic church, as a matter of fact, and no one was pushy or rude to me. I saw joy and love in all the people I met. It hit me the next morning after worship that they had changed the words in “Holy, Holy, Holy” from “God in three persons…blessed trinity” to something else. On the way home my WD friend questioned the leadership of the Catholic church due to the actions of some priests being “swept under the carpet”, but she did it in the privacy of her vehicle. Our responsibility to God is to put him first. If I don’t agree with something Gwen says in the WD materials, I fast forward it and pray for her. I take to heart what I believe will HELP my relationship with HIM. Our world is constantly sending us messages. It is our responsibility to sort the good and bad. Gwen may have come in through the backdoor, but God led me to the Bible and a wonderful peace.

By: Jennifer E.

Jennifer E. — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:57:39 +0000

I would suggest that none of you waste your time trying to get Samuel J. Harris to listen to reason. This is what the Word says of him:

Proverbs 23:9 (NIV) Do not speak to a fool,
for he will scorn the wisdom of your words.

Thank you to Don and all the others for your honesty.

By: Mary

Mary — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:34:55 +0000

I recently finished EOOE from weighdown. I have had a hard time in the video sessions because although I saw a form of Godliness, I didn’t see the heart. What struck me in all the teaching was it was all based on man’s effort, with no mention of grace. I also noticed that all the people that are interviewed for the lessions, always are very careful what they say, and always look to Gwen for approval. I thought maybe I just misunderstood, but once she got to the part that “all the other churches are false churches, I knew that Gwen was not teaching truth, but false doctrine. CB you can pray, because that is one of the most powerful weapon of warfare. You can also love with the fathers love, and lastly, you can fight with the sword of truth, which is the word of God.

Ms Allen, very well put, I see God’s truth in your words.

In closing I am not a follower of Don Veinot but I see the truth in his words also. To Mr Samual J Harris, you didn’t get it at all. Mr Veinot answered you repeatedly but you just didn’t get it, I would ask you, Are you a follower of the One True God, and has Jesus knocked on the door of your heart?

By: Mrs. Allen

Mrs. Allen — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 08:18:40 +0000

After reading all of this with many words exchanged I was simply struck with that which is the source of arguements, or what has caused WD and the Remenant to be called into accountability in their teaching (note not just questioned): that Jesus is God in the flesh, not just a “son” but the physical manifestation of the Godhead, i.e. man- fully God, fully man. He did state very clearly throughout the gospel that he was “Yahweh,” why do you think the Temple Leaders picked up stones to throw at him, because he was making the claim that he was God in the FLESH!

Why do I say this? Because if this is not the foundation of ANY teaching within the church, let alone any teaching brought forth in the world this is what happens: cultic behavior where unmerited favor is swithed to how much merit can you favor to prove you are holy will occur. The heart of man “is desperately wicked above all else” as the pslamist writes and thus DOES need the cleansing of Christ’s blood AS WELL AS the accountability in holding to this very truth. When a teacher holds themselves above such accountablity this should be a massive red flag. When we come to the realization that we can do nothing in and of ourselves that merits God’s favor but to trust only upon the sacrifice of Christ who was FULLY God and FULLY man only then will we STOP the rationalizing of our own thoughts and behaviors.

The Remenant Church and WD has deviated from the FOUNDATION of the Bible, the scarlet thread that runs from Gen to Rev. Jesus is God and has always been Jehovah, was in the beginning and for all time, and deviating from this truth will always be the trademark of a cult: distorting the Gospel message.

Also as a follower of Christ, one should welcome accountability if they are in the roll of leadership, this is something that Paul even touched upon for himself, why? Because he knew once again “the heart of man is desperately wicked.” I don’t see Ms. Shamblin doing this very thing and that is very alarming.

By: CB

CB — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:19:51 +0000

… unless she is single-minded to belong to such an “elite” group.

By being such a provider, I enabled the dissolvement of my own family.

I worked to provide income. I was gone a lot.
I never saw it. I never suspected it. But now, there is a Gwen – who tells my wife what to think and do.
I loved my wife before because she was herself – and she thought what to think and do. She would tell me when I was a “dork”… and I’d listen.
Not any more.
Now, I could tell my wife to go wax my car and she’d do it, because RF has told her to be subserviant to me… as long as I don’t get in the way of her access to RF. Nuts.

By: CB

CB — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:57:16 +0000

What disturbs me is that I proposed this family – and I laid out the plan in great detail. I provided, and during that provision, I gave great freedom for my wife to be indoctrinated into a cult that drew the sword in the family that I gave my best to make.
When RF calls, my wife is gone.
I asked specifically that my wife not leave me alone during traditional holidays, but that is to a deaf ear.
I am only to be tolerated as long as I do not get in the way of my wife, or child’s, ability to reach RF’s required meetings in Tennessee.
As a man who started out to create a family, and to have it disrupted by RF, I feel a great sense of disbeliefe and puzzlement. I provided the means for my wife to get involved in this group, and yet, I am vilified for not joining.
Could a full-time, working woman have the means to join this group? I don’t think so.

By: CB

CB — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:41:26 +0000

Honestly…
This is just an extension of my wife’s being. I don’t know how to describe it, but it is basically that she has always wanted to be alone. To consider being married… to deal with a man – and his needs – has never been part of her constitution.
The woman I married was my best friend mainly because I respected her ways. What I feel she never gave was the part that bends toward me. It has always been about her… I supported her colleges, I supported her Bible studies, but yet she left me behind and condems me for being a lesser man.
What hurts me the most is that my own daughter tells me that I’m destined to Hell because I don’t belong.

By: Sad

Sad — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:41:03 +0000

CB-
The family that has been in RF for 5 years has recently left. The wife finally saw the sin within the “True Church,” and is not seeking the truth in other churches. Now she is very confused, but devoted more to her husband more than ever for not allowing a divorce to happen when she threatened. I pray the same will happen with your wife and daughter. It has been a true miracle in our family.
I do have word that Gwesus and company has quietly applied to drop the suit against Martinez since it legally has no feet to stand on.
I’ll keep you and your family in my prayers. I hate what this “church” has done to families and believers.

By: CB

CB — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:09:09 +0000

… Very well put. Thank you for the comforting and kind words. Believe me, I’ll remain patient. This is year five.
CB

By: KingdomGal

KingdomGal — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:43:45 +0000

Dearest CB,

My heart aches for your pain….
Continue to love and to explain to your wife that GOD has indeed made YOU to lead your family.
Appeal to the directives that Gwen gives, she is supposed to be under your authority…
YOur wife thinks she is doing something GREAT*
The “beulah” women are very doted on in RF.
Just continue to love here and plan things for your sweet family on non RF nights…
That will show her honor and get some sweetness back…
RF is so consuming but IF she is not honoring you then just PRAY for the lure to be broken…
RF looks so beautiful on the outside but many a family has divided because of it….
Dont let it destroy yours, just love and wait patiently upon the Lord.
We left RF a short time ago because of all the
“control” the leaders have over the members…
We were shocked to find out that we couldnt attend a wedding or funeral in another church!
There were so many biblical shortsightedness,
to say that if we pay our respects at a funeral was to endorse all the sin of that church was too much..Very unbiblical indeed….
Especially, there reasoning…They say that churches arent turning people from their sin
so that makes them a counterfeit…
What will they say to Moses? Jeremiah? Elijah?
Paul?Jesus? Were these able to turn everyone from their sin? No! But does that make the messenger a counterfeit, NO!
PUHLEASE! This church is sowing great seeds of judgement, condemnantion and biblical ignorance.
I cant help but think once the money is gone the church will either repent of its pride and separitist notions or simply dissolve over time.
So many I speak to (active members) are so scared of not getting it ‘right’ they really do not trust themselves, nor GODS spirit within them to lead them into “all truth”
Some do not agree with all RF stands for but are to unsure to leave…They dont think there is anywhere else to go!
But there are so many wonderful churches that are filled with the SPIRIT of THE living GOD…
They have been taught to despise and to be wary of anyone outside of RF…
But may your wife grow leaps and bounds and see what a dear man she has….
Hang in there…..LOVE…LOVE…LOVE….
Do not be bitter (Colossians)

Gods best to you!